民国编年体日志

0005169
GENERAL HEADQUARTERS
UNITED NATIONS COMMAND
ADVANCE
25 November 1951
SUBJECT:
SUMMARY OF PROCEEDINGS, Thirty-Sixth Session, 30th Meeting at PAN MUN JOM, Sub-Dedlegation on Agenda Item 2, Military Armistice Conference.

United Nations -
MGDM H I Hodes, USA, and RADM A A Burke, USN, delegates;
COL J C-Murray, USMC, and LTCOL A M Butler, USA, Staff Assistants;
LT H G Underwood, USNR, and WOJG K Wu, USA, Interpreters.

Communists - - -
MGEN Lee Sang JO, NKA, and MGEN Hsieh Fang, CCF, delegates;
COL Tsai Cheng Wen, CCF, COL Chang Chun San, NKA, and Chiu Ko-an, CCF, Staff Assistants;
MAJ To Yu Ho, NKA, and Ting Min, CCF, Interproters;
CAPT Chu Mun Sun, NKA, Secretary.

Meeting reconvened at 1500 hours.

GEN HODES:
I understand that there are eleven points of disagreement on the contact line.
Let us start from the East Coast.

GEN LEE:
I agree.
Let us start from the East Coast and see if we can straighten them out.
(Discussion over map on the eleven points of disagreement.
One minor point of disagreement was settled.)

GEN HODES:
How do you propose we settle these differences?

GEN LEE:
We can settle then by your getting now, accurate reports.

GEN HODES:
I agree, but that works both ways.
The only way I can think of to solve then, if we continue to have disagreement, is by going to see them.
Do you have any other solution in mind?

GEN TSIEH:
We must base our discussions on factual data.
You should not impose your unilateral wishes.
For instance, you admitted that to keep navigation free on the Han River, you would like to put the line of contact on the northern bank.
And at hill 1089.6
you have the line drawn to prevent our having defensive positions on Oom-san, These facts prove that you do not follow the plan of having a cease-fire on current conditions.
The only way is to recognize what troops are in what places, and make no adjustments.

GEN HODES:
I cannot accept what you say without a statement.
What you are trying to do is to get behind the positions occupied by our troops.
Where there are no troops occupying an area, we can discuss and agree to a line; but I am not going to agree to the line being drawn behind positions we hold.
You have tried that in about eight places.
There is a great difference between those areas and the area North of Chorwon, where I think we can get an agreement through discussion.
I am not going to agree to putting the line behind our positions.

GEN BURKE:
I would like to discuss the river a moment.
We control the river:
we have forces on the river, you have none on the river.
The contact line on the river shows that we land and have contact there.

GEN TSIEH:
I have just received information saying that hills 1089.6, 1052, 811.7 and hill 424.2 northeast of Kun-wa are all in our hands, so what you told me is not true.

GEN HODES:
Your map or your information is wrong.
We have pretty good agreement on most of the line.
We should be able to solve the rest.
I am willing to try at 1000 tomorrow to see if you have any changes.

GEN LEE:
Tomorrow morning both sides can compare again after you get more accurate data.
Our data today is accurate; you should check your reports again.
If we are going to do as we have done today, it would be better for the staff officers to take up the matter.
If the sub-committee is to meet, you should study more carefully our data and check yours.
That is the only way to get results.

GEN HODES:
I have heard this “one-sided” business before.
I suggest that you do the same as you have suggested we do..
Assuming we reach no agreement on certain points, I have a proposition to make.
I suggest that in places where we cannot get agreement, such as these hills, we should get out and look at the areas ourselves.
In areas like Chor-Won, I think that it is possible to solve by mutual agreement.
But if we are still in disagreement on the hills you have mentioned, the only way to solve the question is to get in a helicopter and go look at then.
Do you have any objection?

GEN LEE:
We have received accurate reports so that it is not necessary to go by helicopter.

GEN HODES:
Do you refuse to go and look at them?

GEN LEE:
We don't find it necessary.

GEN TSIEH:
In areas like Hill 1089.6 and the area west of the Sachon River, the facts are so clear that we cannot believe your sincerity.
When you insist on such an unreasonable opinion, we can't settle it even by going in a helicopter.

GEN HODES:
How can we be more sincere than by going to look at it?

GEN TSIEH:
Why do you insist on such a conspicuous mistake?

GEN HODES:
It's not conspicuous, and it's not a mistake.

GEN LFE:
Neither looking at it from a helicopter nor your unilateral wish can solve the problem.
It can only be solved by the fact of which force occupies the hills.

GEN HODES:
We could sit here for a month without agreement if you aren't willing to go see then.
Let us have the staff officers meet at 1000 tomorrow.

GEN LEE:
The staff officers should meet with more accurate data.
If you should go to the area west of the Sachon River, you would be taken a prisoner.
We have our troops there.

GEN HODES:
Staff officers at 1000 tonorrow.
Meeting recessed at 1630 hours.

OFFICIAL:
AUTHENTICATED:
HALSEY M.
SETTLE, Jr.
Lieutenant Commander, USNR
H.M.BRIGGS
Captain, USN
Secretary